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				ULLB 7/9 710 epic with pictures
				
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Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:08 am 
				by Mark Johnson
				I will try and add more as I pull out any good ones. Problem is many of the good ones must be seen in sequence. Possible short movie.
I added some more
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2 ... a5d479dad5 
			 
			
		
			
				Re: ULLB 7/9 710 epic with pictures
				
Posted: 
Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:35 am 
				by Don Losee
				Great pics
			 
			
		
			
				Re: ULLB 7/9 710 epic with pictures
				
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Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:57 am 
				by jonpeachey
				Awesome photos, Mark!
			 
			
		
			
				Re: ULLB 7/9 710 epic with pictures
				
Posted: 
Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:02 pm 
				by lesvierra
				Very nice pics, look foward to them.  I can see a "what happened to wearing helmets" discussion soon.  But you guys look good with out em.
			 
			
		
			
				Re: ULLB 7/9 710 epic with pictures
				
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Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:36 am 
				by windzup
				Got to agree with Les on that point....anyone jumping or riding upwind of that rock jetty without a helmet is just plain dumb.  Talk about ignoring lessons and deaths from Kiteboardings past.   
On that note, if you are a good enough kiter to be jumping, especially if you are going big or throwing kite loops.... then you are good enough and should be wise enough to ride out of the cove and upwind.... where there is plenty of room to SAFELY SEND it with out endangering all of the other riders and beginners that are close by and downwind of you.
Just my two cents as I watch our local beaches become more crowded every session.  Lets keep it clean not kooky. 
Windzup,
Brian Schenck
BTW - I don't always wear a helmet, I choose to do so when I feel the location or conditions may present danger.   But it might be wise to always wear one because you never know when some kook may do a kiteloop upwind of you and land on your head.   

 
			 
			
		
			
				Re: ULLB 7/9 710 epic with pictures
				
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Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:55 am 
				by bordy
				windzup wrote:Got to agree with Les on that point....anyone jumping or riding upwind of that rock jetty without a helmet is just plain dumb.  Talk about ignoring lessons and deaths from Kiteboardings past.   
On that note, if you are a good enough kiter to be jumping, especially if you are going big or throwing kite loops.... then you are good enough and should be wise enough to ride out of the cove and upwind.... where there is plenty of room to SAFELY SEND it with out endangering all of the other riders and beginners that are close by and downwind of you.
Just my two cents as I watch our local beaches become more crowded every session.  Lets keep it clean not kooky. 
Windzup,
Brian Schenck
BTW - I don't always wear a helmet, I choose to do so when I feel the location or conditions may present danger.   But it might be wise to always wear one because you never know when some kook may do a kiteloop upwind of you and land on your head.   

 
I tgotally disagree, helmet use is a choice not mandatory, 
Thanks for calling us all dumb Brian, super cool of you.........
 
			 
			
		
			
				Re: ULLB 7/9 710 epic with pictures
				
Posted: 
Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:08 am 
				by windzup
				I would rather call my friends dumb than dead.  Good looking Out!
Windzup,
Brian Schenck
Shall I list the number of dead friends I used to have before dumb kite mistakes took their lives!!!
BTW - Awesome pics MARK!
			 
			
		
			
				Re: ULLB 7/9 710 epic with pictures
				
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Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:10 pm 
				by Mark Johnson
				Its not the first one to jump the jetty or the last but the first not make it that will be remembered (or dismembered).
As for helmets I think it should be your own choice when you have the experience to know what you are in for. I try to always wear mine. As for saftey though I have seen many new kiters without any floatation in deep water. Not a good idea in my opinion. I know I am the goofiest looking kiter out there with my helmet and chepo lifejacket (please no pictures) but I always kite better when I feel safe. There has already been one death of a boater this summer on UL that could have been avoided with a lifejacket.
			 
			
		
			
				Re: ULLB 7/9 710 epic with pictures
				
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Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:15 pm 
				by mike loeser
				Thanks Brian.  I thought I  looked like a goof with a helmet, still true, but makes me feel smarter.
Nice pics Mark. thanks again.
Mike L.
			 
			
		
			
				Re: ULLB 7/9 710 epic with pictures
				
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Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:29 am 
				by tjacques
				nice pics. I sure miss it all. Doc says I will be ready in three weeks. Cant wait. I love the topic on helmet no helmet. What do you guys think? could someone that gets hurt, god forbid maybe killed. possibly cause the local agency that enforces the beach at lincoln to close it to all kiteboarding? I guess what I am saying is all of our opinions matter, do they not? I have mentioned before how other kite communities have lost there access because of this kind of thing. so this little topic does matter, or not? have fun be careful...
$.02   

 
			 
			
		
			
				Re: ULLB 7/9 710 epic with pictures
				
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Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:59 am 
				by bordy
				tjacques wrote:nice pics. I sure miss it all. Doc says I will be ready in three weeks. Cant wait. I love the topic on helmet no helmet. What do you guys think? could someone that gets hurt, god forbid maybe killed. possibly cause the local agency that enforces the beach at lincoln to close it to all kiteboarding? I guess what I am saying is all of our opinions matter, do they not? I have mentioned before how other kite communities have lost there access because of this kind of thing. so this little topic does matter, or not? have fun be careful...
$.02 

 
There has not ever been a helmet issue until this post, According to the riders on the beach that go kiting at Utah Lake we choose to ride with helmets or we choose not to,  Most begginers wear helmets and we as a community support but do not inforce it, I make all my students were helmets that i provide from my personal collection, Kite Utah has supplied me with a xl helmet that comes in handy when I get a larger then normal head, becuase we support helmet use in the kiting community.  I recomond that all my students buy and continue to use helmets in their kiting careers.
Why don't you guys come to the beach and speak with the 25+ kiters that don't post on the website and find out what their feelings are?  I think that would be a great way to find out what the vibe in the community is.
 
			 
			
		
			
				Re: ULLB 7/9 710 epic with pictures
				
Posted: 
Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:18 am 
				by Jon Manwaring
				"To wear or not to wear, that is the question".  When it comes to helmets, I think we are all a little conflicted on this issue, I would have said AD/DC, but that would have left Marty out, as he is only DC.  Personally, I wear both a Helmet and PFD when kiting, except when I'm kiting in a warm location, wearing only board shorts, where I wear neither, go figure.  I will not ride my MTB or Dirt Bike without one, but when I jump on my Harley, I roar off with just a bandanna.  Like all things in life, it's a matter of choices and the resulting consequences of those choices.  Most everyone would agree that wearing a helmet is probably a good idea.  But some choose not to wear one.  So be it.  We do not have a mandatory helmet or PFD law for kiting. Untill there is one, there use is OPTIONAL.  End of story,  IMHO
Jon Mzee
			 
			
		
			
				Re: ULLB 7/9 710 epic with pictures
				
Posted: 
Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:54 am 
				by salvador
				viva la vida loca.  aztec warrio
			 
			
		
			
				Re: ULLB 7/9 710 epic with pictures
				
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Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:24 pm 
				by Mark Johnson
				Obtional I vote yes. But good to remind some of the new guys that just because they see the pros wearing no PDF or helmet that it won't make them a pro to do the same.
			 
			
		
			
				Re: ULLB 7/9 710 epic with pictures
				
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Sun Jul 12, 2009 1:13 pm 
				by tjacques
				axtec you looking good bro!!