Are windsurfers offended by the term "boredpoler"?

[Trip Houk]

What the hell are you guys talking about? You have too much time on your hands. Get a bike or a job.

[Marty Lowe]

What the hell are you guys talking about?

Open discussion about,,,

Forum editing....

-Marty

[windzup]

Not referring to much of the above...but I am bored with all the silly words kiters come up with. From all the sports I've participated in, there are always specific terms, bust most of them kind of make sense and reference something logical in the systems used.

......but kiters (most of the early ones were windsurfers jumping off the old and onto the new shiny red band wagon) have created the lamest jargon of any sport, for us fellow wind riders.

As a kite distributor I have had a most difficult time explaining (translating) our 'kitesurf' terminology to newcomers. It reminds me of a bunch of monkeys that just learned to read really.

So heres my rant (meant to be funny and uplifting, hopefully mind-opening or mind -altering).
1. C-Kite, well most people assume C is spelled SEA, since its an ocean kite, then in translation, you realize they should be called horse shoe kites, so thats what I tell these foreigners to wind.
2. SLE - WTF? really what does that mean, means it has a 'bridle' like kites have had for decades..... SLE is lame marketing terms, like the little logos on ads trying to differentiate product features (that every brand and model all share in common).
3. chicken loop....wheres the rooster or the eggs? Have you ever snared a little birdy with on of these. Why not a term that reflects what it might really do. Which is connect to the harness. Dakine calls there connection point a 'spreader bar hook" .... we should call it the "hook-in loop" but maybe thats to obvious and original.
4. 'Oh Shit loop" ....well this one is right on, as thats what you say when you need to pull it. But come on, I believe the folks designing these kites have graduated sixth grade and have learned a more respectable language. I have a sailors mouth, especially when drunken with spirits, but when teaching a family to kite (mid day sober) I have to struggle for new terms that won't offend the children and parents. I usually use something obvious like "safety handle" or emergency release"....if the kids are into Top Gun like I was, I tell them to pull the ejection handle or you're gonna lose Goose.
5. Tea Bag....I actually like this one, although I'm more of a bean grinder myself

Anyway, lets come up with a more common sense language for wind sports and ignore the silly words of our un-evolved past. If we want people that don't do morse code to understand kiting.

Windzup,
Brian Schenck

[lesvierra]

What the hell are you guys talking about? You have too much time on your hands. Get a bike or a job.

I got the new bike and am doing some long mtb rides, but I'm still addicted to this sport and our spicy forum family here. Of course I wish I was actually out kiting, when I should be working, when I shouldnt be here on this forum. aah, your right to much time on my hands...

[bigwavedave]

All Right . . this all made me feel guilty for not updating my profile . . . So I added my last name so that everyone knows exactly who is offending them when I call them a PoleBlower or a Dangling Participle or use unrecognizable acronyms with the letter "F" in there for emphasis!!

[bordy]

Again this is a little forum used by local windriders. Not a nation wide powerhouse.

I used to feel very comfortable here. Latley many of the "forum addmin." have made it uncomfortable. If that is how you want "paying memembers"(since it sounds like I am in the minority here, my wife also paid dues this year). To continue to feel uncomfortable then keep on the same track. I will for sure think twice before ponying up 24 bones next year. I probably refer more people to the site via the stickers on my gear and the reccomendation to students to check out and register here, so if you feel its neccasary to "educate me" on the benifits of this site then you really need to pull your head out of your ass requardless of who you are Josh or Rick M?

I thank thoose involed on maintaining this site for all to use. I curse thoose with the gall to complain about spelling, jargan, And nick names etc.

I already run my own website and have no desire to run this one also. I however have never told anyone on my forums how they should do things thats the idea of a forum it a public place you can go and be your self and talk about what you love. I respect everyone here becuase they ride wind and that is why we take the time to post here.

I should however not have to "edit" what I say to please anyone. When you stand next to me in person I get to be and behave however I choose how ever on the UWA site i need to conform???? Or be educated by Josh on how I should use this forum to promote myself?????

Come on guys i read every thing here with a stoner voice and really try to assume that every one loves everyone else. Its the internet after all....

But man Rick M. You really need to step into the now, plus your statement about "waisting a few hour thinking how to respond, seems degrading and only reinforces your postion on your view of us memebers vs you as a admin. We are all just sailers, the impresion I get from you is you beleave there is a higherarchey and your on top of it, hence the direction to us groundlings...... thats the vibe I get and i am letting you know that how I feel.... we don't sail together and maybe you never have anyone in your world tell you they think some things uncool, but I am like this in person also.

Josh its nice of you to take your time to explain how the internet and forums work, but don't you think most of us know???
And there is no anger of getting Mad at anyone like you say, but if you have the balls to tell people how to do things online then you should very well be ready for some critasisium. As well as some ass kicking (like from me) as well as some ass kissing (like from Les). Its not ment to be negitive but construtive

And Josh when you make this statement
"We are open for suggestions and change - after all we are progressives, we participate in the best sports out there. This forum is a joint effort to unite us, promote windriding, provide us with information, teach each other, etc. So if you think you can help out the club please do so."

then you need to back it up several offered suggestions like stop editing our post, or Changing our names with out our approval, or please don't complain becuase you are out of the loop and don't understand what is being typed, and instead of it being veiwed as critasism from a very active member on the board and the community it becomes nothing more then a chance for you to reafferm the rules and why "the admin" has decide to do so. Thats not being open for suggestions thats just being a police site just like I first mentioned.

Again I thank everyone who does anything for this site. I check and contribute here daily. As a kiter not as a instructor or a kitecompany employee.

Thats why sites like Kiteutah, are out there so I don't have to be anything but Me on this forum. It my local forum and I care about how it operates! Josh if you want to convince yourself I should be doing other wise thats fine, but thats why you are you and I am me but don't think your correct and I am incorrect, its just a different opinion at thats great!

[RickHeninger]

This is why you don't walk into a building after the firemen have put out the blaze! Hotspots!

Like Marty so eloquently said, "A lot of people will learn from this"... And I don't exclude myself from this...

Dave, it shouldn't be guilt you feel, I like responsibility or obligation at worst. Were all together on keeping the site working ...

PS... And yes, to Trip, we need more bikes and fewer injuries! Wait, that's a paradoxical statement.

[bordy]

I am not a good writer unless I sit and edit and I am way to ADD to edit. But I am still alittle worked. I

I no you can read what I right negitivley but I really just want this to be a open forum.

I have a little beef with Rick M. thats for sure. I totally thank him for the work he puts into the website as with Josh as well, its just a bummer that when some members kick out info they would like to be heard, not just told why things are. Its your Job as Admin. to help the board its, not scouts or the army with a ranking system, it should be a open forum, If I want to say "flip! that" as a response I would like to. And I think that should count. Not just get corrected. There are several Admin. that do a wonderful job, being open. Its one thing to explain why, but why is a choice made by a group of people already, Thats all. I think alot of people on forums forget the freedoms we should have? Where is the rating on the forum that says this place is PG? There will always be the callanges of keeping the site bot free, no come look at my boobs threads etc, but that should not change The fact If I want to be superKitersillylove as My sighn in name I can't. And what funny its it guys who choose freely to use parts off their names before that are complaining.

What about the paranioia of the goverment monatioring this site and it scares off and sailers that are Illegal from using the site becuase they don't want to use their full name? What about if you were a Spy and still want to know when DC is going to fire???? There are a bunch of reasons that seem just as silly as the one goven by the ADMIN?

The Idea that We are being protected by using our real names is not true at all. It doen't change the topic at all. Some one, some where came up with this and some people buy it, thats all. I had no Idea bradsaxe was my buddy brad I had been kiting with a bunch we had to talk on the phone to figure it out?

Great plan guys that sure works well all the time????

Free the UWA !!!!!

[bradsaxe]

5. Tea Bag....I actually like this one, although I'm more of a bean grinder myself

Bean grinder= when a male kiter gets pulled over the leeward board edge them skims along his stomach/ junk for an unspecified yet significant distance. eg. dude you were ripping until your that gust came and yarded you into that bean grind.

[Marty Lowe]

Billy,

I sense a little frustration here???

When does your wife get back in town

-Marty

[bordy]

Maybe I should go to some of the sites with naked girls I hear you can find that online?????

My new Screen name should be PornStarkiter!!!

[RickHeninger]

well, Billy, I mean pornstarkiter! there are a few reasons for the log in name... we've already mentioned those.

As far as the censorship goes... it bugs me a little myself because I believe in free speech. But, I just think that we don't walk into any town meeting dropping f-bombs etc. So, it makes sense not to do it here. This was the logic in activating the word censor... but we can deactivate it if enough people want us to.

[btjsfca]

This forum seems to have been degenerating lately -- and maybe it's the summer doldrums just grinding all our beans (a piece of jargon, BTW, that is *awesome* (thanks Brian and Brad)) -- but some of the ill will here is coming from the diatribes that have been appearing of late.

No matter how stoned I pretend to be when I read some of the recent posts, I can't seem to make the mean things sound nice. (Sorry, Billy, but that comment's been on my mind for the last week, and I couldn't pass on it.)

Obviously, I have to admit to some part in the bad air around here. But in that admission, I'm doing my best to stay off a post unless I've got useful advice related to kiting to add in. To wit ...

I agree somewhat with the censorship on the forum, but only because Utah locals can be sensitive. I teach at the U, and although I watch my language in front of the room, one time I said "BS" in all its glory. I got a review back that term stating that I swear too much. But, on the same token, no one is going around deleting posts or editing them for content except the author.

The username thing I still haven't quite figured out. If I meet people on the beach who are on the forum, I announce my username to whoever I'm talking to. I'm not hiding behind a cryptic name. I just happen to use one. If it gets to be a problem of people abusing anonymity, then I think it's wise to disallow odd usernames, but until then ...

And jargon: this sport is a bastard child of at least three sports (windsurfing, wakeboarding, and snowboarding) and gets terms from all of them. I'll be damned if I know the difference between a mobe, a backmobe, a KGB, or a slimchance. What I know is that they're all moves I can't do. Jargon has different levels. The entry level stuff (chicken loop, broad reach, port tack, etc) is a must for all kiters, but there's plenty of terms that a kiter never need learn. Call the things what you want; at some point, you'll either adopt the jargon, or find your own terms that all kiters will understand.

In the end, this is just a forum for a bunch of folks who dig the same rush. It's never going to ruin a day at the beach -- not for me, at least.

Pray for wind, and heal up, all the walking wounded.

-J

[Rick McClain]

Thank you, btjsfca, for saying that, who ever you are. I was beginning to think I was the only one that couldn't translate what he was saying; and I'm pretty sure he didn't want to hear that from me. I think it's a little ironic that he said, "I am not a good writer unless I sit and edit and I am way to ADD to edit." and then typed whatever it was he thinks he said.
Rick McClain

[darrenfowler]

Wait?
Does this mean I don't have to use a real pic of myself for my avatar?